David Keen has been highlighting the activities of the UK Border Agency today and, in particular, a story written by Paul Vallely writing in the Independent about the detention of children by that agency and the impact on their mental health. 1300 children were held in immigration centres in 2008-9 here in the UK. Moreover, the Royal College of Paediatrics and the Royal College of Psychiatry’s study into the mental health of children in such centres showed that EVERY SINGLE ONE of the children displayed some signs of distress and 73% had developed significant emotional and behavioural problems since being detained. Not one of them had previously had such problems. Paul Vallely writes:
All the children seen by clinical psychologists presented as being disorientated, confused and frightened. More than half, who had previously been well behaved at home and in school, had developed conduct problems.
It is nothing short of shameful that this kind of treatment of families and children should be happening in the UK.
However, I want to focus on another aspect of Paul’s story. I want to focus on the Egyptian Coptic Christians, Hany and Samah Mansour, and their five kids under ten who fled to the UK after a campaign of persecution by a group of Islamic fundamentalists in Egypt. The fundamentalists had friends in the secret police who tortured Hany. The British Government in its wisdom has decided that Hany and Samah Mansour are lying about the persecution and so they raided the Mansour house at dawn, forcing the Mansour’s five kids from their beds, in order to deport them. Currently, after some horrific treatment from a number of agencies in our Government, the Mansours remain in limbo awaiting a judicial review of their case.
In my early twenties, I visited Egypt on three separate occasions and was delighted to get to know a number of Christians in Cairo, most of whom were Copts. Egypt is held up as the more moderate face of the Islamic world, and indeed, for the most part it is more moderate than many places in the Middle East. Nevertheless, I got to know some locals and I still consider one particular couple to be good friends. It didn’t take very long to work out and understand that Copts in Egypt are a persecuted people.
The very good friend I made was roughly my age, academically gifted, spoke excellent English and yet could not get a job (even amongst Western multinational companies) because the Muslim employees of such companies that interviewed him could tell he was a Copt.
The churches I visited during my time in Egypt always had police guards. It was hard to know if they were to prevent attacks from without or to corral and identify the Copts within.
Coptic women are sometimes ‘disappeared’, forced to convert to Islam and forced to marry a Muslim. Christian Solidarity International produced a report (downloads PDF file) about the situation.
For others, like Hany, the persecution is more violent. The Copts celebrate Christmas on January 6 and, mostly unreported by British media, six Copts died on Christmas Eve this year when Muslim gunmen opened fire on a congregation as they left church in Nag Hammadi (famous to academic Christians and Dan Brown readers as the place in 1945 where local farmers found a sealed earthenware jar containing many ancient manuscripts including the only complete Gospel of Thomas). The day before Christmas Eve, Christian houses and shops had suffered arson attacks in the neighbouring town of Baghura.
Names can often be a giveaway – Girgis (George), Yousef (Joseph) or Maryam (Mary) although many Abrahamic names are common to both Muslim and Christian communities. However, the biggest giveaway for every Copt (even if you don’t know someone’s name) is the coptic cross tattoo that each Copt has on their wrist.
It is an ancient tradition in that church and, in that sense, not something imposed upon them by their Muslim world. You might imagine that they would choose not to identify themselves in such a way if it brought with it such persecution. However, the sad truth is that the practice has taken on a modern edge in that the Copts know that such a tattoo, particularly for their women, is something of a safeguard against abduction and forced marriage. It is hard to remove a tattoo from the wrist, given the delicate skin and arteries, and so the families hope that the difficulty of removing the tattoo will force potential captors to look elsewhere.
People in the UK immigration office could take five minutes on Google to realize that Egyptian Coptic Christians suffer persecution. Anyone with an ounce of common sense might look at the Mansour’s application for asylum and query why Hany would give up a thriving business in the Luxor Hilton Hotel to bring his family to live in Moss Side, Manchester. I don’t suppose he did it for the weather.

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David, thank you for putting a human face and context on this story, which really upset me when I saw it on the Independent site. I heard a segment of Woman’s Hour the other day in the car in which they were interviewing a young deportee with a strong Welsh accent, about the UK agency’s behaviour towards her and her family. It was also a Manchester case, I believe. Quite apart from the justice asects of these cases, there’s such a waste to our future in throwing out highly motivated, often hardworking and economically active victims of persecution. Something’s all wrong.
I was just wondering about immigration. Is there any legal way these days for an Egyptian Christian family to come to the UK? I have Christian friends in Egypt I want to help, (the situation is getting worse all the time) or at least enquire in case it becomes necessary – where do I start looking? What can be done? Surely it is our responsibily as a Christian country (I suppose we ARE still a Christian country?) to look after our brothers and sisters?
Can anyone help, or does anyone on here know of anyone who could?
Thank you so much for all your efforts.
Oh, I forgot to say thank you, David, sorry, brilliant article. All you describe is true. Further info for those interested at http://www.coptsunited.com
We must prepare ourselves for continuing bad news and help do something positive about it all.
Amen + God bless.
We have just celebrated the Nativity of our Lord and Godd and Saviour Jesus Christ, who was an asylum seeker in Egypt. Now his followers there have to seek asylum elsewhere, where his followers turn them away.
In Australia the media are trying to criminalise asylum seekers by frequent reports on “suspected” asylum seekers, as though seeking asylum was a crime, not a right in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which I believe Australia has signed. In South Africa people in government has threatened to close a church that allows refugees to sleep in it rather than out in the street.
It’s a strange, strange world we live in.
Thanks Bishop Alan, GiMi and Steve
GiMi – I’m no legal expert I’m afraid but seeking asylum is one route obviously as the Mansours have tried. I think this is the sort of thing where proper official advice ought to be found.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/settlement/
This website from the UK Border Agency notes that people can settle here after they have legally lived here for a period of time. Legally, in this context, either means as a student or having come on a work visa or through family connections.
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